An Interview About Ghost Voters.

Our Florida investigation raises alarms even beyond the Sunshine State and it relies on the work product of career professionals like Bob Woodward and former Special Prosecutor Jack Smith.

The fight for the 2026 midterms won’t begin on Election Day. It has already begun.

In this interview, we discuss the conspiracy that is still going on and how we can fight back now… before it’s too late to save the midterms.

I recently had the opportunity to sit down with journalist Bob Gatty for an in-depth conversation about my election research and the work we’re doing through the It’s Up to Us initiative.

Here is the link to watch the full video:

First, I want to thank Bob for taking the time to seriously explore this work. Too often these discussions become political arguments. But here we just stuck with the facts. I had the opportunity to explain the origin story that kicked off my investigation prior to the 2024 election. And I was able to discuss the red flags, or should I specify that what I saw was Russian flags — because yes, in this interview we wind up going there.

I had the opportunity to connect the dots and explain how our investigation has direct links between the documented 2016 Russian interference and the evidence that it was still going on in the 2024 elections and — most importantly — why the evidence also shows us that this interference is still going on in the lead up to the 2026 midterms.

And if you stick around to the end of the interview, we start to discuss one of the questions I hear most often which is:

“What can we do before the midterms?”

That’s exactly what we’re trying to answer. Because we think we can stop this from continuing through the midterms if we use the time between now and the election strategically and we show up in big numbers to stop it from happening again in 2026.

The goal of It’s Up to Us and our Ghost Catchers volunteers is not to wait until after an election and argue about what happened and try to change the past.

The goal is to help identify potential problems before the first ballot is cast. We want to help ensure legitimate voters remain on the rolls while also removing registrations that are fraudulent or otherwise should not be there and dilute the vote count of real voters.

We want the midterms to truly reflect the will of the people, not the will of an ongoing conspiracy. And yes, we also go there in this interview. I explain why the conspiracy — and that is not a word that I use lightly — it’s the legal term that former Special Prosecutor Jack Smith used in his official testimony to the House Judiciary committee. It’s a topic we explore in detail.

In other words, we’re using the research and the work product of people like Bob Woodward and Jack Smith to search for the conspiracy they have detailed as actually happening. And we use that roadmap of how they are trying to steal all elections to try and make the voter rolls more accurate before the election and help ensure every legitimate vote is counted afterward.

If you watch the interview, I encourage you to stay through the end because that’s where the conversation turns from problems to solutions and what ordinary citizens can do to help.

But before we get to the solutions, we discuss the problems.

I explain what I saw that gave me the first inkling that the registration numbers in St. Lucie County, where I live, were not factual and appeared to be fraudulent. They went up and down in a way that could not possibly be organic and caused by normal human behavior — they felt contrived and artificial — they felt algorithmic.

Bob then followed me through the journey that began when I learned of the other Bob — Bob Woodward’s reporting that St. Lucie County was one of only two counties in the nation where U.S. Intelligence top officials briefed Donald Trump in the White House that Russian malware could target racial neighborhoods and delete 1-in-every-10 voters. Neighborhoods that would almost certainly vote for the Democrats.

This led to Bob asking me the million-dollar—or perhaps the billion-dollar or even the trillion-dollar—question?

Who did I think was responsible for this manipulation of the voter rolls.

I chose not to answer that in my own words but instead read from the sworn testimony of former Special Prosecutor Jack Smith.

In no uncertain terms, on page 32 of the transcript of his testimony to the Congressional Judiciary Committee, Jack Smith said,

The evidence here made clear that President Trump was by a large measure the most culpable and most responsible person in this conspiracy. These crimes were committed for his benefit.

I used that quote, because I couldn’t imagine that I could say it better.

And later in the transcript on page 78, when asked if he could describe the evidence that he had used to persuade a grand jury in Florida to indict Donald Trump for a conspiracy to violate the voting rights of the people, Jack Smith responded with details of a scheme to “get rid of” votes in urban parts of that state in a way that was eerily similar to what Bob Woodward described in his reporting.

But Jack Smith also expanded on the details of the conspiracy he described. It was not simply a scheme to get rid of legitimate votes; according to his testimony, it also included “finding” votes. And these found votes, what we at It’s Up to Us describe as Ghost Voters, can take the place of the very real voters that the conspiracy is deleting.

And as Jack Smith puts it,

Diluting the vote count in that way, there is strong precedent for that being a violation of the statute that we charged.

We also have a bit of a laugh afterwards because the conversation under oath immediately pivots to the point that is often repeated as a political talking point. A talking point that drives me nuts.

And yes, you’ll probably notice that I laugh from time to time. The truth is that some of what we’ve uncovered is so terrifying, but also so strange, that sometimes you have to laugh so you don’t cry. In discussing these serious topics, I have chosen to see the humor and lean into it. It is not to avoid the terrifying reality, but to make the terrifying reality that much easier to digest and discuss.

So, after Jack Smith explained in his testimony of a conspiracy that he charged Donald Trump with – a conspiracy to violate the voting rights of the people – which in layman’s terms, can be described as, election fraud.

After Jack Smith explained about getting rid of votes and finding votes this was the immediate response by the House committee member:

There were 60 Federal or State court decisions rejecting claims of electoral fraud

Jack Smith wasn’t really asked that as a question, but it was made more like a statement. But I had the opportunity to point out to Bob the irony here, what drives me crazy…

To me, 60 court cases where Trump actually did not provide evidence of voter fraud does not equate to — there is no voter fraud. It means Trump didn’t want to bring evidence of voter fraud to the courts.

Or to say it another way, imagine taking the mafia to court more than 60 times over missing persons cases.

Would anyone seriously argue that because the mafia never produced a body in court, no murders had ever occurred?

Of course not.

We would recognize that as a ridiculous conclusion.

The fact that someone failed to prove a murder in court is not proof that murder never happened.

Likewise, the fact that Donald Trump lost more than 60 court cases for failing to produce evidence of voter fraud is not proof that voter fraud does not exist. It simply means he did not present evidence sufficient to persuade those courts. And why would he… if the evidence could implicate him?!

But the story doesn’t end there.

Years later, prosecutors as part of Jack Smith’s investigation claimed they had uncovered evidence of a conspiracy. They presented that evidence to a grand jury, and the grand jury returned an indictment.

To continue the mafia analogy, that would be the equivalent of investigators finally finding where the bodies were buried.

At that point, the question is no longer whether evidence exists. The question becomes whether that evidence will ever be presented and tested in open court.

In this case, Jack Smith’s prosecution never reached that stage.

The indictment existed. The allegations existed. The evidence described by prosecutors was presented to a grand jury. But the public never got to see that evidence examined before a trial jury.

It was buried through a series of Court Orders of Judge Aileen Cannon. And only Trump’s very own DOJ is allowed to release it to the public.

That is very different from saying there was never any evidence at all. It means the evidence is being cover up.

And therefore let’s not conclude that the alleged conspiracy of getting rid of legal and eligible votes, while finding alternate but ineligible votes to substitute in instead, that scheme that Jack Smith described… let’s not assume the conspiracy simply disappeared or stopped because the case itself never went to trial.

To me, all of the above logic that is being used to justify that our elections are 100% safe, seems like insane logic.

And I don’t think that’s a risk our elections, or our democracy, can afford to take.

But Bob gave me the opportunity to explain the actual evidence, discuss the conspiracy that has been charged but never stopped, to review the records that I believe represent false voters aka Ghost Voters. And most importantly we had the opportunity to discuss why we believe that It’s Up to Us is one of the few, if not the only, organizations with a strategic approach for the period between now and the midterms.

Over the past year, we at It’s Up to Us have compiled more than 100 million voter records obtained directly from state and local election officials. By comparing voter registration snapshots over time, we’re able to identify unusual additions, deletions, and modifications that deserve closer examination. We’re hunting. We’re Ghost Catching through this data.

If you can stick around ‘til the end we get to discuss in detail some of the solutions we are trying to put in place before the midterms to get our elections as fair as possible before a single ballot is even cast.

And what I hope people take away from this interview is not simply that there are problems.

It’s that there are solutions.

Thank you again to Bob Gatty for the thoughtful conversation.

🎥 Watch the full interview up at the top of this post or you can click on it directly here:

Ghost Voters. Florida Investigation Raises Alarm Even Beyond the Sunshine State

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